Heroin Posted June 4, 2008 Report Share Posted June 4, 2008 and only level 48 required, could make a godly mld jabber as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bruno Posted June 4, 2008 Report Share Posted June 4, 2008 very nice. 9/10 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joz Posted June 4, 2008 Report Share Posted June 4, 2008 Im deffinitevely in love. 9.1/10. its even godly without IAS Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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manduki Posted June 5, 2008 Report Share Posted June 5, 2008 haha its nice but 45 + 60 + 20 + 20 = 145 =( i think you need 170 to hit max jab frame =( wish it had even 10 base ias. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joz Posted June 5, 2008 Report Share Posted June 5, 2008 haha its nice but45 + 60 + 20 + 20 = 145 =( i think you need 170 to hit max jab frame =( wish it had even 10 base ias. 45 helm + 60 armor + 20 gloves + 20 ammulet = 145 ++++ 15 shield. = 160. Add Nos Coil as belt. 4fpa jab. or use a Jewelers Shield of Deflecting instead of Nos/SS and switch for a COA and Dungos. Also IK gloves and another IK item adds 25. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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manduki Posted June 6, 2008 Report Share Posted June 6, 2008 no, its just that jabbers are disadvantaged compared to barbs and druids to begin =( awesome java tho XD Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heroin Posted June 7, 2008 Author Report Share Posted June 7, 2008 5fps is the way to go with jabbers honestly, that way you can use fort and get 50% DR. if i wanted the 170% ias BP i would use 160/60 armor 30%ias on helm 20%ias highlords 20%ias cb/2passive/str-dex gloves 2xBer/80-30 JMOD 31%DR/4frame jab i have that setup to use and it works well against barbs and druids but i use a different jav when fighting them because i need higher damage. I would also use a different javelin on most occasion when fighting barbs/druids It is sad that the mat jav doesn't have the 10%ias i was ISO but it's fine without it. I do 10x better with 5frames then i would have thought. With 5 frames on the mat jav I get to use Draculs so I can use tap, I hit around 26k AR without angelics, and I hit 50%DR. If it had 40% ias I'd be able to use 16060 JMOD, fort, my 2 socket zon circ, and hit 4 frames, which would be hitting about 6.5k like a pallies zeal. But I'd only have 15% DR from Dungo's. Ideally, for the perfect (in my opinion) possible build for pvp versus barbs/pallies, I would have to have a Styg. Pilum with 300%ED/40%ias/Fools eth rep. Then I could use the pilum, highlords, a rare circlet with 2x 40-15ias jewels then have the 5frame BP. That would mean I could use draculs, and use the stormshield I have with 27%ED/8str/9dex/7FHR instead of a 40-15 one, and still have 50% DR. That or have a mat jav with 40%ias/fools/300%ED, which I would pay so much for... 40%jav - mat jav 45%helm - 120/45 30+dex tiara 20%ammy - highlords 45%shield - 120/45 Ber'd JMOD 20%gloves - crafted gloves That would make out to be 4 frames, using fort and the most ED possible on a 4 frame build, but also with only 23%DR. I would try it because it would be fun but not as effective. The best I could do with it though is use the extra ias to switch out helms and jewels and such to try different builds. I could also use angelics and dracul's and still hit 5 frames. In summary: The 10% ias that someone was saying the mat jav is missing is really miniscule because going for the 4 frame build isn't worth it. I've done it and yes there's a BIG difference in damage and the speed; I use it on occasion because it works better against druids and barbs with lower FHR in my opinion, but it overall is not as good as the 5 frame builds. You cannot get 4 frames and 50% DR on a jabber. It's a sad fact of life. But Jabbers NEED that 50%DR to survive in melee for the most part. The above is also only speaking in terms of builds requiring the Fools mod. Sometimes it is not needed, like for lower defense barbs and druids. I use my non-fools jav in cases like those and use a 4 frame build most of the time. For the ultimate non-fools build? 40%ias/450%ED/repair ethereal balrog spear (600+one hand damage i think) - much higher min dmg than styg. fortitude Stormshield with 30%ED/9+str/9+dex/AR mod Highlords 20%ias/2+passives/10%CB/15+STR/15+dex gloves 15/40 Dungoes 120/45 30+Dex tiara I made one on open with everything perfect (perfect within reason, as perfect as characters online can get, the jav had 288%ED and the charms weren't all perfect), and she had around 5k min damage with 9.7k max. I think she had pretty decent AR as well, around 17k. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lotd Posted June 13, 2008 Report Share Posted June 13, 2008 9/10 Great javs. a shame the ed is so low. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Habakkuk22 Posted March 12, 2011 Report Share Posted March 12, 2011 not too bad 7.5/10 for HLD 10/10 if your actually using this on a lv 48 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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